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Governing a great state

第60章 · 居位 · 德经

CHINESE ORIGINAL

治大国,若烹小鲜。

以道莅天下,其鬼不神;非其鬼不神,其神不伤人;非其神不伤人,圣人亦不伤人。

夫两不相伤,故德交归焉。

ENGLISH · JAMES LEGGE, 1891

Governing a great state is like cooking small fish.

Let the kingdom be governed according to the Tao, and the manes of the departed will not manifest their spiritual energy. It is not that those manes have not that spiritual energy, but it will not be employed to hurt men. It is not that it could not hurt men, but neither does the ruling sage hurt them.

When these two do not injuriously affect each other, their good influences converge in the virtue (of the Tao).

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Modern English reading

Govern a great state as you would cook a small fish. When the world is approached through the Way, its ghosts do not exercise harmful powers. It is not that they have no powers, but that their powers do not injure people. Nor is it only that the spirits do not injure people: the sage also does not injure them.

When neither causes harm to the other, their virtues converge.

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Modern Chinese reading

治理大国,好像煎烹小鱼一样。用道治理天下,鬼怪不起作用;不是鬼怪不起作用,而是它的作用不伤人;不是它的作用不伤人,而是圣人也不伤人。鬼怪和圣人都不伤人,所以德归于他们,交相会合。

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Historical commentaries

Emperor Hongwu of Ming 明太祖

Imperial commentary

ENGLISH STUDY TRANSLATION

Those governing the world well strive to avoid extravagance that wastes the people's wealth and wearies their strength. Extravagance necessarily starts palace, terrace, and pavilion projects and all kinds of labor service arbitrarily. Farming is neglected, supplies fail, and the state is endangered. Thus the analogy of cooking small fish provides a model for kings ruling the world. The four occurrences of 'its/their' in the text establish the analogy: ghosts originally do not manifest power, but because the contemporary ruler lacks the Way, they cling to grass and wood and together produce strange phenomena to foreshadow what will come and give warnings. If the ruler recognizes these unusual signs and reforms his wrong heart to make the heart of the Way correct, heaven's intention can be recalled. Otherwise, though heaven does not announce it [the transmitted wording is unusual], it must act through someone fit to receive its mandate: the state passes to another and the people follow another, impossible to retain. This is why it says spiritual power does not injure people, and not simply that spiritual power does not injure people. If spirits send no calamity and the ruler is secure and people abundant, his virtue reaches heaven and heaven's favor necessarily descends, leaving lasting freedom from trouble. This is neither injuring the other, so the two virtues return to each other.

Chinese commentary

善治天下者,务不奢侈,以废民财,而劳其力焉。若奢侈者,必宫室台榭诸等徭役并兴擅动,生民农业废,而乏用国危,故设以烹小鲜之喻,为王者驭天下之式。内有四其字设喻,盖谓鬼本不神,因时君无道,故依草附木,共兴为怪,以兆将来,亦有戒焉。时君若知怪非常,能革非心,以正道心,则天意可招回焉。不然则天虽不叙,必假手于可命者,则社稷移而民有他从,不可留也。故云神不伤人,非神不伤人,为此也。若使神不降祸,君安民阜,则君之德达天,必天之恩下施,永无患矣。是有两不相伤是也,故二德互归焉。

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Manuscripts and variants

Differences are computed from transcribed Chinese characters, with punctuation excluded. ∅ marks an insertion or omission; highlights do not establish which reading is earlier.

Mawangdui silk manuscript 85% similarity · 8 changed spans

Received text · Wang Bi tradition

治大国若烹小鲜以道莅天下鬼不神非鬼不神神不伤人神不伤人圣人亦夫两不相伤故德交归焉

Mawangdui silk manuscript

治大国若烹小鲜以道莅天下鬼不神非鬼不神也亓神不伤人神不伤人圣人亦夫两不相伤故德交归焉

其 → 亓其 → 亓其 → 也亓∅ → 也其 → 亓∅ → 也不 → 弗人 → 也
Jinglong stone inscription 95% similarity · 3 changed spans

Received text · Wang Bi tradition

治大国若小鲜以道莅天下其鬼不神非其鬼不神其神不伤人非其神不伤人圣人亦不伤人夫两不相伤故交归

Jinglong stone inscription

治大国若小鲜以道莅天下其鬼不神非其鬼不神其神不伤人非其神不伤人圣人亦不伤人夫两不相伤故交归

烹 → 亨德 → 得焉 → ∅

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CHAPTER 60 · EXACT WORDING

治大国若烹小鲜

Govern a great state as one cooks a small fish: excessive handling spoils it.

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